FBGM DoA Casual (old)

[Phate]

Updated tactics 13/6/14

Reverting to older tactics!
Biggest change for members
We no longer pop trenches in veil.
IAU + MLK go derv lord, VoR + TK go ranger.
After lords, turtletrench.



TT - OwFT85eWT6ASnhmcCCBC3J0pzB
MT - OwFT85eWT6ASnhmsBCBC3J0pzB
VoR - OQJTAQBbVCu0txG00ZDY6BnC6A
TK/Off damage - OQdDAosxSLBnAmOIgTPylxkdO
IAU (requires stone + exp!) - OQdTAWB/NaJ4Ew0Z6xmUukmEBC
MLK - OQBCAswzS4EY6upbgpnHQDA
UA - OwUTI2nBZKH8uaJgDQukhAgIeAA
EMo - OgNDwcPPTkE3MaR1C0lxDHEyD

NO FUCKING EE ON MONK

(the red really brings out the hatred)


City

The usual. Seeder takes lifebond on mt, and backfires the su's (echo up), rest of team goes on manks (if you see a su down to one hit death, hit it!).

After first ball, wall, second ball, inside balls, time to spike Jadoth (in Veil).

TT and MLK will leave to 360 and solo the first wave.

Tip on wall: MLK should just empathy all the manks first (so spike empathy -> unnatural -> next mank empathy -> unnatural)

Veil

360
TT and MLK will be here first, take quest, and kill first wave on glitch spot. If you don't know where this is, ask the tank first!

Team arrives just when 2nd wave spawns, rest of 360 as usual.

Underlord splits

TT, MLK & TK will go derv lord
MT, Emo, seeder, VoR & IAU will go ranger
Kill them & stuff.


Mesmer trench

Stand ready at mesmer trench for quest to be taken by MT. Go in & turtletrench. TK can be there a bit later and spike from the back or recall in from top.

Cloverpull + spike (TK, do your offdamage, all of it!)

Only MT goes necro lord and pulls it, the rest of team spikes ele trench while TK kills the ele lord. When ele group is dead, come back and spike necro lord.

Monk Trench

TT will pop trench, MLK will spike from the glitch spot. TT kills monk lord, MLK... kills it.


6-0

While TT (depending on timing) goes to gloomgate, team does 6-0. IAU will solo left side with stone (mystical/mysterious), TK takes quest side with mt, MLK front right, VoR front left. Bring it in, kill it. IAU should try to be there before the MT to avoid... problems.

Spike it, take chest and WAIT for team at the start of gloom trench (IF trench is not popped yet). Pop together and turtle (while MT gets backgroup).


Gloom

Lazy, and if you need an explanation for this you shouldn't be here D:

Foundry

Lazy



Old MLK guide

How To Do MLK
- In general wastrel is a strong skill, but it requires skill to be used effectively. Spamming it is a safe way to waste your energy.
- MLK is always on dreamriders, they should not cast and you are using mistrust to ensure that they dont. Because of this, wastrel is a good skill to use for damage.
- Another example where wastrel is great is in 360: use it on a Brute as soon as you can. Damage should trigger at least 3 times before it settle on emo, then you can shatter it.


At Monk Lord
Don't stay close to the tank. he might have to recall out to break aggro.
Monk lord will ONLY use RoF when he's below 80% health. Because of this, you need to damage him in order to get RoF diversioned.
Monk lord will immediately use Smite Hex when hexed. Because of this, it is best to use Diversion as your first hex, to divert smite hex quickly.
Kill with Diversion (monklord will use hexremoval now, it will be diversioned) > Esurge > signet > Diversion (monklord will use rof soon, it will be diversioned). You can also use wastrel inbetween other spells as you like.
After that, keep wastrel on it (wastrel lasts 5 second, watch damage to avoid recasting before it ends). If for any reason RoF wasn't diversioned by the second Diversion you casted then you need to use Diversion again and deal damage until RoF is diversioned.
Use esurge and signet for extra damage, and use FH when he's below 50% hp.

Tactics writeout to be added by someone who's not as lazy

[Nika]

Seems like most guilds run same tactics now, nice!

[Seya]

This is SenT tactics

[Anth]

we did these tactics back when hC was active. TECHNICALLY we were first.

[Hydro]

I invented guild wars, just saying...

[Nika]

Duh' does it matter who was first?
I guess you guys didnt have empathy on mlk back then, did you?
But meh, noone cares. Everyone knows SenT is best anyway!

[Hydro]

Phate Wrote:(...)
Tactics writeout to be added by someone who's not as lazy

Not 'cause I'm lazy (actually, yes, I am) but because it's easier to remember I'll keep it brief:

VoR Wrote:Foundry
1st/2nd room: Put VoR on center targets, use mistrust too.
3rd room: believe in the AoS God.
4th room: drop eoe after dryders.
5th room: keep running towards black beast, keeping an eye on every snake as it's taken. If it gets stuck, drop eoe and spike.
At black beast, lead with VoR but don't ping it because the UA should keep the snakes out of aggro.

City
Nothing interesting other than kill Manks on the wall.

Veil
360: nothing interesting
Underlords: go Ranger Lord
Turtle Mesmer trench.
Kill patrol before the Ele Lord
Kill Necro Lord
Kill Front Left Tendril

Gloom
Nothing interesting

TK Wrote:General job for everywhere, get stuff outside the ball <90% hp before the spike is finished, lead with Wandering Eye since it needs a moment to trigger.

Foundry
Take quest at the beginning, follow VoR.
5th room: take 2nd snake. If you do a 6-2 split, take the first snake too.

City
Kill Manks on the wall, follow VoR

Veil
360: on 2nd wave, use Echo. Watch the fiends, if there's no off damage, use Unnatural Signet to remove Echo so it's available for 3rd wave.
Underlords: go Ranger Lord with the VoR.
Turtle Mesmer Trench
Recall the emo, wait for the Ele patrol to settle on emo, then kill the Ele Lord. Pull him out with a longbow. Should stuff pop, don't freak out. Time your cancel-recall, usually you can kill the lord before you get killed.
For tendrils, recall the emo, then kill the ones that are near the quest guy.
90% of the time, all 6 spawns are gonna cause a lot of off damage, try to get as much as possible.

Gloom
stay with VoR

MLK Wrote:Foundry
1st room: nothing interesting
2nd room: focus on dreamriders by echo/mistrust + Wastrel's Demise
3rd room: dreamrider again
4th room: spike, last spawn, once again, dreamrider is all yours.
5th room: nothing interesting. if you do 6-2 split, go to the right with the TT and ping for the snake. Once the tank recalls out, stop pinging because you could get lead of the other snakes and they might run straight towards you and on rare occasion there's still shit in the way.

City
Focus on Manks, follow VoR. If you're strong, skip Jadoth and start 1st wave of 360 with the tank.

Veil
If you're doing first wave with tt, receive recall, stand in the hiding spot and kill stuff with Echo/Wastrel's Demise.
360: put Wastrel's Demise on Brutes as they come in since they use the fewest skills. Right before the settle on the emo, shatter it.
Underlords: go Derv Lord. Find out if tanks has recall on you. If he doesn't, bow the lord, if you're the recall target, stay back.
Go stand in the hiding spot again and wait for BOTH groups of the trench pop to settle on you, kill them with Echo/Wastrel's
Monk Lord: if he just used Judgment, use Diversion to disable Smite Hex. Once Smite Hex is diverted, use Empathy + damage skills. When Lord is at ~80%hp, he'll start spamming Reversal, Divert that too. Then use damage skills (that includes Wastrel's Demise).
Alternate bar (Backfire>Diversion):
Use Wastrel's Demise/Mistrust to make him waste Smite Hex. Then use Empathy>ESurge>Backfire and watch him kill himself. At about 50% hp his smite hex will be recharged. Use Mistrust to ensure Empathy/Backfire stay live. At about 20% hp, use backfire again.
Kill the front right tendril.

Gloom
Follow VoR.

IAU Wrote:Foundry
Follow VoR.
5th room: tank black beast, use IAU and use YMLAD when he uses Touch to rupt it.

City
Kill manks, follow VoR.

Veil
360: faceroll
Underlords: go Derv Lord. Find out if tanks has recall on you. If he doesn't, bow the lord, if you're the recall target, stay back.
If all is smooth, the ranger lord team will already be popping the mesmer trench. Join them but beware of trench pops.
Follow VoR.
Tendrils: Kill the 2 tendrils near the trenches. Pop a stone, preferably a Gaki. Pull stuff to the emo, staying alive with IAU + HoS.

Gloom
Follow VoR

UA Wrote:Follow emo, rez people. Nothing interesting. Some points in the run where u need to pay attention:
- Echo Seed when IAU is going in for black beast.
- QZ Seed for Fury.
- Kill Su's, make sure to have a Life Bond on the tank doing the pull in front of City.
- For Jadoth, Echo/QZ/Seed and spam Shield of Absorbtion on the emo.
- At Ranger Lord, use seed as the tank uses DC, or echo it and use it well before he DC's.
- At Tendrils, Echo Seed, use SoA to keep emo alive.
- In Gloom go to Rift after all the earths/fleshes have been killed and kill the tendril with PI.

emo Wrote:idk emo, i suck

Feel free to add/correct.